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IF...and I do mean IF...he's really done this then it's terrible and he shouldn't play anymore IMO. I have a pit bull and seeing those pit bulls fighting on TV was among one of the saddest things I've seen on TV in quite a while.

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In a case that The Humane Society of the United States has assisted with since the alleged cruelties came to light in Virigina last April, the 19-page indictment describes abuses that are almost beyond belief:

In or about March of 2003, PEACE [one of Vick’s co-defendants], after consulting with VICK about the losing female pit bull's condition, executed the losing dog by wetting the dog down with water and electrocuting the animal.

In or about April 2007, PEACE, PHILLIPS, and VICK executed approximately 8 dogs that did not perform well in "testing" sessions...by various methods, including hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground."

52 dogs were seized from his property
doesn't seem likely he isn't guilty



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If a federal grand jury returned an indictment, this isn't taken lightly and they probably have some very compelling evidence, i.e. paper trail, that links him. i also think witnesses have come forward to talk. Thankfully Roger Goodall from the NFL has already started taking matters in his own hands and Vick has been told to not report to camp. Now for complete expulsion from the sport- that is what I would like to see. I think he's bad news and always has been. Oh, with the caveat that he is guilty of course- had to add that in. The cruelty exhibited on those digs? Absolutely unforgivable in my opinion. emoticon

emoticon this should be the Falcons and NFL wiping their bottom with vick's contract!
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Amen! If it were anyone else they would be in jail and remain there for a very long time. My mum told me she had nightmares about it for days afterward. It's disgusting and he's a terrible example of professional sports.

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If he does that to dogs imagine what he'd do to humans!
   The man's a sadist & serial killer in the making. Throw him out of the League forever!

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Amen! They say in the papers now that he not only supposedly fough dogs but that the dog that lost was often killed (after consulting with Vick to make certain it was ok,) in torturous ways...one dog even had water thrown on him/her and was electrocuted. Horrible.

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I agree. Now that Nike, Reebok, Upperdeck, and Donruss have all pulled either his shoes and contract, cancelled his jersey, or removed his trading card from the sets (all respectively), I think he might start to understand the gravity of his actions. Its gonna hit him right in the pocketbook. I think if he is found guilty, part of his sentence should be picking up dog poop at dog parks etc all over Georgia and Virginia while wearing a big sign like "I was convicted for illegal dogfighting and animal abuse". Just a thought.... emoticon
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And a very very good thought at that.

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The man has proven he has no respect for life and cannot handle himself around animals... that being said, he shouldn't be able to touch another animal or it's skin ever again. This includes pigskin. He most certainly shouldn't prosper financially from touching an animal.

Rip the football out of his hands and let him make his way in the real world like the rest of us do. He can't handle fame and is not the type of person who should have a life of luxury ~ jmo

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RICHMOND, Va. – In front of the one man who really matters, Michael Vick stood straight and strong, hands at his side and after promising to tell Judge Henry H. Hudson "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help (me) God," admitted he was guilty.

In the elegant wood-paneled room 339 of the federal courthouse here, Vick put words to the autographs he signed on documents admitting his role in a rural Virginia dogfighting ring. Afterwards, he hugged family members, including a weeping, pregnant woman identified as his fiancée and shed a small tear himself.

An hour later, in front of the rest of America at a quickly assembled media conference at the Omni Hotel, Vick looked shaken and anything but strong. He could barely make eye contact, nearly whispering as he apologized for his shameful conduct.

"I don't know how to say what I want to say," he said. "What I did was very immature. I take full responsibility. For not one second do I sit here and point a finger at anyone else.

"Dogfighting is a terrible thing."

They were two dramatic scenes on one long, hot morning; the first day of the rest of Michael Vick's life.

He's a convict now. Gone is his $130 million contract with the Atlanta Falcons, his numerous big-money endorsement deals and, perhaps worst of all, his own good name. No matter his contrition, he will forever be a pariah in some circles, such as the animal rights advocates who lined the street, holding signs advocating Vick's own torture and murder.

A sizeable and vocal crowd that showed support for him could only begin to ease the fears of a federal prison sentence that could stretch from the prosecution's suggested 12-18 months up to the five-year maximum if the judge so decides.

"I am not bound by that part of the plea agreement, you will not know for sure," Hudson told Vick before setting a Dec. 10 sentencing date. He promised "an adequate but not longer than necessary" sentence.

Vick said he understood.

Convincing Hudson to keep it short is the challenge ahead for Vick and his legal team, who will make the case for leniency in December. "We hope Judge Hudson will see the real Michael Vick," said attorney Billy Martin. "What we have seen is an aberration."

There are no more questions of guilt now, just of justice.

Can something that took place over the course of five years really be called an "aberration"?

Is there really any sense in throwing away the key on Vick, who would appear a highly unlikely repeat offender?

Was his press conference performance just a pathetic attempt by a man sorry that he got caught, or someone who is profoundly sorry as he starts a new life?

"I want to apologize for all that I have done and all the things that happened," he said.

He took a special opportunity to apologize to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, who has suspended him indefinitely, and Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank and coach Bobby Petrino – all of whom Vick admitted lying to when he originally denied any involvement in dogfighting.

"I was not honest or forthright in our discussions," he said. "I was ashamed and totally disappointed in myself, to say the least."

Vick looked and sounded convincing, a nearly broken man with a deep fear of the future. That, in its own right, may be the start of justice considering the cruelty he and his crew at Bad Newz Kennels showed in torturing and murdering pit bulls.

Whether the people and NFL will accept him after paying his debt to society remains to be seen. We are, almost always, a forgiving nation and Vick has taken the first public step toward reconciliation. He admitted guilt, blamed himself and apologized to his young fans. That was about all he could do at this stage, deeds and crimes long done.

"Use me as an example to use better judgment and make better decisions," he said to the kids who loved him as a football star.

"I will redeem myself. I have to."

These were the right things to say after so many wrong actions. But for Michael Vick, whether one Henry Hudson was listening, or moved, is all that matters now.




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